{"id":114097,"date":"2015-07-17T16:21:40","date_gmt":"2015-07-17T16:21:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.trustedtranslations.com\/?p=114097"},"modified":"2023-02-09T15:30:33","modified_gmt":"2023-02-09T18:30:33","slug":"debemos-terminar-esto-de-forma-simple-notas-para-un-experimento","status":"publish","type":"blog","link":"https:\/\/www.trustedtranslations.com\/es\/blog\/debemos-terminar-esto-de-forma-simple-notas-para-un-experimento","title":{"rendered":"\u201cDebemos terminar esto de forma simple\u201d: notas para un experimento"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Her\u00e1clito fue un fil\u00f3sofo de la antigua Grecia. Sol\u00eda escribir en forma de versos cr\u00edpticos, ocultando su filosof\u00eda deliberadamente para convertirla casi en acertijos, de modo tal que solamente aquellos que estaban entrenados pudieran realmente comprender de qu\u00e9 se trataban.<\/p>\n<p>Para \u00e9l, el mundo se encontraba en un continuo estado de flujo, cambiando constantemente.<\/p>\n<p>Tambi\u00e9n fue el hombre que comenz\u00f3 a hablar sobre el <em>logos<\/em>. Este era un t\u00e9rmino fundamental en filosof\u00eda (y en otros \u00e1mbitos), que significaba una gran cantidad de cosas diferentes para diferentes personas. Significaba discurso, o <em>el principio animado divino que se difund\u00eda en el Universo<\/em>, o conocimiento, palabra&#8230;etc.<\/p>\n<p>Yo voy a elegir el <em>logos como palabra<\/em>: no como \u00abpalabra\u00bb gramaticalmente hablando, sino en cuanto a la Palabra en s\u00ed. Es decir, casi en ese sentido b\u00edblico, la Palabra, sagrada por naturaleza. Dejar\u00e9 que Wikipedia hable por m\u00ed en este aspecto: \u00abpara Her\u00e1clito, el logos proporcionaba el v\u00ednculo entre el discurso racional y la estructura racional del mundo\u00bb Me gustar\u00eda hacer una analog\u00eda entre el logos y bases terminol\u00f3gicas o memorias de traducci\u00f3n, pero hoy no lo har\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>He aqu\u00ed uno de los fragmentos de Her\u00e1clito sobre el logos que han sobrevivido, traducido del griego al ingl\u00e9s:<\/p>\n<p><em>For this reason it is necessary to follow what is common <\/em><em>(Por esta raz\u00f3n es necesario seguir lo que es com\u00fan). <\/em><em>But although the Logos is common, most people live as if they had their own private understanding <\/em><em>(Pero aunque el Logos es com\u00fan, muchas personas viven como si tuvieran su propio entendimiento del mismo).<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Experimento:<\/p>\n<p>He aqu\u00ed esa misma l\u00ednea, traducida con una m\u00e1quina de traducci\u00f3n autom\u00e1tica del ingl\u00e9s al espa\u00f1ol, al island\u00e9s, al yoruba, al birmano, al kasajo, al sundan\u00e9s, al gallego, al afrik\u00e1ans y nuevamente al ingl\u00e9s:<\/p>\n<p><em>Therefore, we must complete what is common (por lo tanto, debemos completar lo que es com\u00fan). As a general understanding of golf, but in life itself, but a lot of people (Como un entendimiento general del golf, pero en la vida en s\u00ed, pero muchas personas).<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Fant\u00e1stico. \u00bfC\u00f3mo, d\u00f3nde y por qu\u00e9 entr\u00f3 aqu\u00ed la palabra \u00abgolf\u00bb? \u00bfSer\u00e1 posible que quiz\u00e1s la m\u00e1quina, en forma disl\u00e9xica, haya traducido \u00ablogos\u00bb a \u00abgolf\u00bb?<\/p>\n<p>Pasemos esta frase por las m\u00e1quinas una vez m\u00e1s.\u00a0Del ingl\u00e9s al zul\u00fa, al malayo, al finland\u00e9s, al nepal\u00e9s, al japon\u00e9s y al ingl\u00e9s nuevamente:<\/p>\n<p><em>Now, I need to fill in this simple (Ahora, necesito completar esto de forma simple). Many of the living and the world of golf (Muchos de los que viven y el mundo del golf).<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;Y ahora intent\u00e9moslo del ingl\u00e9s al afrik\u00e1ans, al \u00e1rabe, al alban\u00e9s, al armenio, al azerbaiyano, al vasco y nuevamente al ingl\u00e9s:<\/p>\n<p><em>Now we have to finish this simple (Ahora tenemos que terminar esto de forma simple). Many people live in the world of golf (Muchas personas viven en el mundo del golf).<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Resultados:<\/p>\n<p>La palabra escrita, el logos, el texto, aparece viva, org\u00e1nica, comunicando activamente \u2013 habl\u00e1ndoles a ustedes.<\/p>\n<p>Y las <a href=\"https:\/\/www.trustedtranslations.com\/blog\/quality-and-speed-in-machine-translation\">m\u00e1quinas de traducci\u00f3n<\/a> son aqu\u00ed o una conspiraci\u00f3n de programaci\u00f3n predictiva que hace que los traductores holgazanes jueguen al golf, o nuevamente: incluso en la forma que ofrece la m\u00e1quina, la palabra contin\u00faa apareciendo viva, org\u00e1nica, en movimiento, evoluciona, fluye, cambia \u2013 y les habla a ustedes.<\/p>\n<p>En este caso, mi fragmento de Her\u00e1clito ahora ha cambiado, con un mensaje claro: \u00ab<em>Now we have to finish this simple!<\/em>\u00bb (\u00a1Ahora debemos terminar esto de forma simple!) \u00bfExiste una conclusi\u00f3n simple a la que podamos llegar?<\/p>\n<p>Muy probablemente no. Algunos de ustedes, algunos de los ling\u00fcistas tradicionales m\u00e1s conservadores, dir\u00e1n: \u00a1Basta de perder el tiempo con la m\u00e1quina de traducci\u00f3n y pong\u00e1monos a trabajar! Otros que est\u00e9n m\u00e1s abiertos a la evoluci\u00f3n en nuestra industria de localizaci\u00f3n encontrar\u00e1n argumentaciones m\u00e1s que excusas. Y seguramente hay muchas.<\/p>\n<p>Por ahora, dej\u00e9moslo as\u00ed: No se precipiten a juzgar a la m\u00e1quina de traducci\u00f3n. Admitamos que est\u00e1n (mejorando) evolucionando, cambiando \u2013 como el universo, como la palabra escrita, tal como mi amigo Her\u00e1clito lo hubiera considerado. Cuando una m\u00e1quina de traducci\u00f3n evolucione hasta el punto de convertirse en un ser sensible, al estilo\u00a0<em>Terminator<\/em>, podr\u00edamos tener un problema.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Her\u00e1clito fue un fil\u00f3sofo de la antigua Grecia. 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